🦿 Lucian Marin Every time I see a site made with Bootstrap I run the other away! Using Bootstrap means a few things: it looks bad, it works bad, the programmers are lazy, they don't care about their customers, the product isn't trustworthy.

Adam Douglas Material design is fast becoming a similar indicator of laziness.

🦿 Lucian Marin Ultimate laziness and visual horror: Material design as a Bootstrap theme.

Adam Douglas Front page of HN--not a good sign. materializecss.com