Zeke Hernandez Everyone's talking about Nougat, and I'm still rolling with Lollipop...

🏒 Lucian Marin I type this on an iPhone 4S while everyone is talking about iPhone 7. Old tech is good enough these days.

Martijn The 4S is still getting iOS updates though, right? The bigger Android issue here is that you can be stuck on Lollipop (like @zeke) with no updates to Marshmallow and 0 expectancy of ever seeing Nougat. This includes all security updates, because backports of those never seem to happen in the Android sphere.

😀 Tom I haven't followed Apple's iOS news in a long time, but it used to be that while the older devices did get updates for the new iOS version, it didn't include features (most of which was only software reliant and arguably able to eun on the older hardware). There is a lot of anecdotal evidence that tthe newer iOS version cripple the old hardware though, and of course there is no way to downgrade because (they silently update some key/hash in the phone's firmware) fuck Apple (in my opinion).

Martijn It's true that some key-advertisement features didn't get released on the older iPhones, but you are getting security updates and the SDK updates needed to keep the ability to install newer apps. And Android does not mess up hardware? The new Android Nougat will (probably) not even run on Snapdragon 800 or 801 chips. That means a 2 year old high-end flagship Android phone like the S5 is physically unable to ever get another major OS update. The ~5 year old iPhone 4S, in comparison, last got an OS update less than a week ago.