🏒 Lucian Marin It will be nice if Apple could scale M1 to other Macs: 2x M1 in MBP 16 and iMac, 4x and 8x M1 in Mac Pro. Maybe even a 2x M1 Mac mini.

👂 Sly Am i the only one who's not excited about this M1 chip? Ram is inside the chip, everything is hard soldered, you can't replace any component. I know it has been this way with macs lately but this time it's even worse. It seems to me that the sole purpose of those new chips is to make them more like iphones and ipads so that the only way to upgrade is to keep buying the newer models.

🥝 Mr I really can't think of the last time that I upgraded ram in a computer that didn't involve upgrading the mobo or replacing the entire thing. If the M1 leads to better performance/watt i'm all for it. Apple is positioned to do everything that no other company could do because of "compatibility".

🖥️ Lesha That's not just about upgrading, you can't replace it either if it goes bad. I know that in Linux you can mark some of its parts as *bad* so that kernel won't use them, I don't know if that's possible with MacOS.

🥝 Mr There are about 5,000 parts in a computer that you can't replace when they go bad without soldering / reworking. Many times apple will replace your computer for free even when it's out of warranty as long as you didn't damage it. Replaceable ram is mostly about upgrading, but apple computers just aren't upgradable anymore. It's a different approach, they want faster ram and thinner devices (and I do too). I have to swap the entire machine to upgrade - I'm cool with it.

🖥️ Lesha > Many times apple will replace your computer

👂 Sly If we can make components so fast and so thin, why don't we take the effort to make them modular? That's actually how the future is supposed to be, what's the point of progress if we all end up with thin and fast walled gardens that we don't even comprehend? I am just hoping that other chip makers won't go down that path and make wise choices for a better future and not just a faster and a thinner one.