Asko P. What do you guys think of this signup page design? asko.press/2016060...
Martijn Do you really need two fields to ask for a name? w3.org/Internation...
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Asko P. Yes, in that I need to know what is the first and the last name.
Martijn What if I only have one? Is "last" my family name or the name that is written last? Some more questions like that are put forward in the article I linked. I am a stickler for this as I have an easy, ASCII writable, European name and software still messes up capitalisation when they make me put my family name in a separate field.
Mark Dain Is it "Mr Van der Ven"? or "Mr van der Ven"?
Martijn The second. Although try convincing software of that. I also expect my name to be sorted under "Ven", ignoring the "van der". Wikipedia will inform you on collation and capitalisation: en.wikipedia.org/w...
Mark Dain Interesting... Thanks for the link, I can see how a lot of software would get this wrong, especially as it differs by region (Belgium sorts under Van but the Netherlands doesn't?). And then it's suppose to be Ven, Martijn van der? Christ this is complicated. It's times like this I think the W3C is so right; just have a field for name and let the user sort it out!
Asko P. Having an O in my last/family name makes a lot of software also mess up and use O instead. I don't have a middle name, just first and last, but in case I use one input, how would I know how to split it up into a use case where I need to display "Hello, John!"?
Martijn How would you know what part of a name to display for Mao Ze Dong? Or what if he enters Mao Ze Dong ? (Family name - generational name - given name, in that order, by the way.)
Mark Dain Oh dear... It's bad enough trying to serve Europeans with van der in their names, now I have to deal with people who write the family name first?
Martijn You've had to deal with them for a long time. You just never did The W3 article I linked was a real eye opener for me, even though I already knew about some of the issues.
Mark Dain Full name and Display name? Perhaps with an auto fill of the first word when they setup the account? I'd probably use my handle for display :P