🦿 Lucian Marin It will be nice if Apple could scale M1 to other Macs: 2x M1 in MBP 16 and iMac, 4x and 8x M1 in Mac Pro. Maybe even a 2x M1 Mac mini.

👂 Sly Am i the only one who's not excited about this M1 chip? Ram is inside the chip, everything is hard soldered, you can't replace any component. I know it has been this way with macs lately but this time it's even worse. It seems to me that the sole purpose of those new chips is to make them more like iphones and ipads so that the only way to upgrade is to keep buying the newer models.

🥝 Mr I really can't think of the last time that I upgraded ram in a computer that didn't involve upgrading the mobo or replacing the entire thing. If the M1 leads to better performance/watt i'm all for it. Apple is positioned to do everything that no other company could do because of "compatibility".

🐢 Keb I'm also not excited, because I purposefully do not use Apple products since I don't enjoy walled gardens or highly proprietary systems. :)

🦿 Lucian Marin I could be interesting once software get standardized between ARM and x86. macOS, Linux and Windows run on both now. Maybe Apple will keep Mac Pro running on Intel.

🧐 Nrmn Amen! It's getting worse and worse. And though I don't know any concrete numbers I bet the performance benefits are not crazy. Especially because it's still ARM, which is much harder to get to x86 speed levels because of the simple instruction set.

Nick Silvestri On one hand, the inability to upgrade is true, but the tradeoffs at least seem positive. I don't think the performance and efficiency would be as effective without it. I'm more excited for the start of ARM personal computers.